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10 October 2010 @ 09:04 am
Infos about sweetgirl7808´s journal  
I guess the most of our common friends noticed that Manu has deleted her journal. I got some pm´s from people who were worried about what had happened, and I promised to tell her your messages and inform you as soon as possible.

Now here is what she told me yesterday: "Tell everyone I´m okay, and not to worry."

The are different reasons that led her to this decision and I really really really really hope, she´s going to change her mind about not coming back to LiveJournal again. It completely threw me off the track to hear that she´s deleted her account. I didn´t have the slightest clue about it and if I wouldn´t have gotten all your messages, I wouldn´t have realized it, bc not having Manu here in LJ is something I can´t and don´t want to imagine at all.

Yes, I said there are different reasons. First off, this stupid fight about the icons she´s made (God, I so want to hunt all that bitches down, I can´t even tell you how much) about the season opener - and second there were several other things happening, which is not my right to talk about, bc it´s Manu´s decision to tell you or not, not mine. Let´s just say she´s incredibly hurt and she feels like fighting a battle she just can´t win here.

And I have to say, I understand her. She showed me every pm, every comment that she received - every bashing entry... I my be biased, hell, she´s my best friend after all, but the things that kept coming throughout the last weeks aren´t acceptable anymore. 

Like I said, I really hope she changes her mind/reopens her journal or at least keep the marys_angel  one, because

I JUST DON´T WANT TO LOSE HER IN HERE!

The reason why she didn´t make a good-bye post was that she didn´t want to sound pathetic, neither did she want to raise panic or get attention to her (she had enough of that lately..)
I just don´t know what to say or do about it, bc it´s her decision after all. I told her to think about it and all I can do is wait and see. I just...I don´t know, LJ won´t be the same without her. She´s the one that introduced me to it and I just can´t imagine LJ without Manu at all. I miss her already.

All I can do is wait and see if she decides something else, I can´t force her - and I don´t want to. And all I know is, though I´m not losing her in RL - it´s hard to see her go. I just don´t know what to do about it. :(

Love,
Andy
 
 
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annj_g80annj_g80 on October 10th, 2010 07:25 am (UTC)
WTF? Here I am ... wasn't online for mere 36 hours and *bam*.

GOD! People are stupid! (I'm not talking about Manu here, of course!)
Andrea: Friendslupina78 on October 10th, 2010 05:41 pm (UTC)
Totally know what you´re talking about...if I wouldn´t have received a pm that said "do you know why Manu deleted her journal?" I might have seen it only by next week or so. Her not being here is so unthinkable for me, that woul´ve never crossed my mind. *sigh*

They are! *nods* (and of course I know you didn´t!)

*hugs*
strikske: srslystrikske on October 10th, 2010 07:42 am (UTC)
That is a shock! I just hope she doesn't think that all her LJ friends are mean. I for one think that whatever someone posts at their Journal is OK. I might not agree but I would never write hatefull comments about it, just wouldn't give a comment.

Can you plz give her my best and tell her I hope she will be back some time in the future when she feels ready for it, and that I would really miss her art work (all of it)*BIG HUGS to YOU and MANU ♥*
Andrea: Friendslupina78 on October 10th, 2010 05:48 pm (UTC)
Oh no no, she knows she can count on her friends here in LJ, there just had been some people that kind of betrayed her and that´s something that hurt her a lot.
I´m absolutely on your side here..everyone should be able to post whatever she or he wants to post. And if anyone doesn´t like the message, just scroll over it and everyone lives happily ever after. But people are too stupid for that, it seems.

Aww, thank you so much. Of course I´ll pass on your message. You are a great friend indeed. *BIG HUGS BACK*
matapadabee on October 10th, 2010 08:17 am (UTC)
Ugh - I've heard about what happened over that icon post. I thought the icons were funny, but fandom is so damn batshit crazy. I don't really know her but I hope she changes her mind and doesn't let that (and whatever the other reasons are) bring her down. It's just the crazy people that are the loudest, as usual, and it'd be a pity to lose her and her art over that.
Andrea: Friendslupina78 on October 10th, 2010 05:57 pm (UTC)
It´s crazy like hell, that´s for sure. I mean, scrolling over a post you dislike can´t be that hard, right? Critism is alright, or telling the artist "hey, I´m sorry to tell you, I totally disagree with your opinion" - that would be okay, but not this. This is just the way only 3 year old kids fight. Very lame if you ask me.

Your word in Gods ears!!! I want her back in here so badly! And yes, it would be a shame to not see any of her arts ever again..

Thanks for your words! *hugs you*
     Mandy: Haunteda_phoenixdragon on October 10th, 2010 08:18 am (UTC)
Damn...I fired off a message to her under marys angel...dunno if she recieved it.

Tell her that I love her - and that I'll miss her! Tell her that I don't want these assholes to run her off - an yet I understand if she needs to step back and deal.

*Curls up in a ball and cries*
Andrea: Friendslupina78 on October 10th, 2010 06:16 pm (UTC)
YOU ROCK!!! Let´s hope it helps!! *crosses fingers*

I totally will!! (actually I just showed it to her via Yahoo Messi!) I´m trying my best - I swear!!

*pets you and hands you a handkerchief*

Love you!!
     Mandy: Finally the Huga_phoenixdragon on October 10th, 2010 08:49 pm (UTC)
*Hopes HARD*

*SMISHES*

Love you too, bb!!

*Sahres some Love with Manu*
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Andrea: Friendslupina78 on October 10th, 2010 06:47 pm (UTC)
It´s not exactly the how many´s,it´s more the how. Bashing about it via comments in Manu´s post is mean enough, but doing an extra mean bashing post in her own journal, where people went on with the hating - going back to Manu´s journal and stuff...

God, I´m not a hater normally, but I´d want those bitches to suffer horrible pain, I really mean it.

I guess she has the mind of a 3 year old - nothing else would explain her stupid reaction...and she totally should try to live in reality for a while..she´d be surprised about the things that REALLY matter!!!



Sissidreamers_dh on October 10th, 2010 09:07 am (UTC)
Äh... hallo?

Ich komm gerade das erste Mal seit zwei Tagen online und sehe Deinen Eintrag. Mein erster Weg war zurück zu meinem LJ Profil, um zu sehen, ob Du von derselben Manu redest an die ich dachte.

Manu nicht im LJ Land? Gar nicht mehr?
Aber... wie... geht... das???

Ich meine... ich bin sprachlos... das geht gar nicht!

Sag ihr bitte, sie soll zurückkommen, ja?
Es gibt doch immer jemanden, dem nicht gefällt, was man macht und der dann einen Zickenterror startet. Sie hat so viele Freunde, Fans, Bewunderer *kicher* Sie kann nicht einfach gehen. Nicht wegen so dämlicher Puten, die unbedingt Ärger machen wollen!!!

DAS GEHT EINFACH NICHT!

*jammer*
Andrea: Friendslupina78 on October 10th, 2010 06:53 pm (UTC)
Jup. Ist dieselbe Manu. :(

Genau das ist auch mein Gedanke. Das passt überhaupt nicht. Ich bin kurz davor erstens eine Pedition zu starten und zweitens diesen ganzen bescheuerten bitches den Kragen umzudrehen. Manu ist absolut kritikfähig, aber was zu weit geht, geht zu weit. Mir gefallen so viele icons und zb Serien nicht, von denen andere total begeistert sind, aber da geh ich einfach drüber. Das man seine Meinung sagt ist auch okay, aber man kann das auch freundlicher bringen und nicht gleich mit Beschimpfungen beginnen..und ein guter Schuss Realität wär halt auch nicht schlecht...Mann, ich HASSE dieses eine WEIB, die das alles angezettelt hat...wie kann man nur so bescheuert und so hinterhältig sein?

GENAU MEINE WORTE!! Ich tu echt alles um sie zu überreden, und ich hoffe, dass sie, wenn ein paar Tage vergangen sind, ihre Meinung noch ändert. Ich würds mir auf alle Fälle von Herzen wünschen!

*knuddel*
crism79: WC Neal thinkingcrism79 on October 10th, 2010 09:48 am (UTC)
People can be so mean... I don't really understand the concept of being mean and leaving bad comments to someone. If one doesn't agree with it just don't post, period. Or say what you think in a constructive way... Anyway, I just hope Manu, although I don't know her, I hope she will be back, because obviously she is a talented person and there are many people here who really like her.

I just wish fandom wasn't like this.

*squishes you and a squish to Manu too*
Andrea: Friendslupina78 on October 10th, 2010 06:56 pm (UTC)
True. I don´t understand that either. First of all, I was brought up that way that you just don´t treat others the way you don´t want someone to treat you. That´s a rule I still stick to. And second, there are hundreds of icons out there that I find disturbing or just ugly, but if the user likes them, so what? I can´t do anything about it! Mostly I just scroll over entries that I don´t like to read or see..yes, it´s that simple..*sigh*

Me too. Seriously - me too.

*squishes back*
linnea82: land sad rain anilinnea82 on October 10th, 2010 09:55 am (UTC)
OMG, ich glaub jetzt nicht was ich lese. Ich komme ja leider zur Zeit nur immer kurz dazu hier ins LJ zu schauen, aber bitte richte Manu aus, dass ich sie hier sehr vermissen werde. Um so mehr würde ich mich natürlich freuen, wenn sie ihre Entscheidung rückgängig macht oder zumindest mit marys angel hier bleibt.

*knuddel dich ganz doll Manu*
Andrea: Friendslupina78 on October 10th, 2010 06:58 pm (UTC)
So gings mir auch. Ich hab nicht das geringste von ihren Plänen gewußt und es hat mich total umgehauen, das kann ich dir sagen...
Ich richte ihr das sogar sehr gerne aus, denn vielleicht sieht sie dann, dass es ganz viele Menschen gibt, denen sie wichtig ist und die nicht wollen dass sie geht.

*schickt Manu die Knuddler weiter*
EPandora: daniel sadnosurething2 on October 10th, 2010 09:59 am (UTC)
I have no words....this upsets me SO much....I despise the people who made her think she had to do this!!!!

I read some of the comments she got too.

LJ isn't LJ anymore without her!

Edited at 2010-10-10 10:08 am (UTC)
Andrea: Friendslupina78 on October 10th, 2010 07:01 pm (UTC)
Me too..I hate people like that ones. Normally I don´t say stuff like that, but I really want that bitch to suffer. I really do.

LJ simply NEEDS Manu!!

EPandoranosurething2 on October 10th, 2010 08:18 pm (UTC)
thacha: other-eiffel-raintalulababy on October 10th, 2010 11:11 am (UTC)
I was away from LJ for a few days and just realized that Manu has deleted her LJ last night.

I think you've already known that Manu and I have difference opinions about those icons. But even though I don't agree with her I always respect her opinions. But I think I might have hurt her with my comments. And I'm really sorry about that. I hope I'm not one of the reason she leaves LJ.

Anyway, please tell her I always think of her and even though we have disagreed on something it doesn't mean I don't consider her as one of my best friend here. I hope she'll change her mind. But if she won't I respect that too.

*hugs*
Andrea: Friendslupina78 on October 10th, 2010 07:06 pm (UTC)
It was a complete surprise for me as well, believe me.

Yes, I read your comment, and though you had a different opinion - which is your right and there´s no hard feelings whatsoever - you did it in a respectable way. In no way your comment and your opinion is one of the reasons why she deleted her journal, trust me.

I´ll do that for sure. She needs to know how many friends would miss her. Having different opinions and respecting each other is the basic concept of friendship. *hugs*
Schnute23schnute23 on October 10th, 2010 11:17 am (UTC)
Tell her that we miss her and that we would wait for her and be here with opens arms when sh decides to come back <3<3
Andrea: Friendslupina78 on October 10th, 2010 07:07 pm (UTC)
I will do that for sure!! Thanks darling!! *cuddles you*

She needs to know how many friends she is leaving behind here!

Deborah: Spike - crying at the end of The Giftdebris4spike on October 10th, 2010 01:15 pm (UTC)
I hadn't see this - I am so sorry to read it.

Do give my love and special hugs to Manu ... you won't be the only one who misses her.

I love her art work, and as I said to her, I was so, so sorry to read of the upsets.

Hope she comes back again, soon.
Andrea: Friendslupina78 on October 10th, 2010 07:10 pm (UTC)
I´m very sorry about that too. :(

I will, I promise. She really needs to know how much her friends will miss her and want her to come back.
Me too, me too!

*hugs*
Tareena aka Monte: lensflareloco_lobo on October 10th, 2010 01:32 pm (UTC)
D:

I've been busy the last few days and didn't notice! NO!

ugh, I can't believe the bullshittery going on in fandom these days *sigh*

pass on my cuddles, I hope she comes back, or at least keeps the one journal :(

*cuddles you too*
Andrea: Friendslupina78 on October 10th, 2010 07:14 pm (UTC)
She must have decided that from one minute to another on Friday afternoon. :(

Sooooo true! How can the love for a show turn into hating each other? That´s just not right.

Will do that for sure, thanks darling! I try my best to talk her into coming back, I swear.

*cuddles back*
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Andrea: Friendslupina78 on October 10th, 2010 07:18 pm (UTC)
That´s the million Dollar question..obviously it´s easier to hate people than to respect each others opinion. *sigh*

Thank you my dear. She´s pretty much hit rock bottom and seeing her like that and knowing she´s not feeling well without being able to help her, breaks my heart.

I will do that for sure! *hugs back*
deanvica23deanvica23 on October 10th, 2010 07:31 pm (UTC)
thanks sweetie. i don't liked the icons she know it but this icons isn't a problem for me. each fan create what she want we are free. His art have been marvellous. Just i was surprise by this icons. i will email her we need that she return with us, we don't want to lost her. i don't want to lost no one in this moment, keep my friends even if we speak rarely.
Andrea: Friendslupina78 on October 10th, 2010 09:11 pm (UTC)
It´s absolutely okay to not like the icons, that´s the right of every person on this planet - nothing wrong with it!
I totally agree with you, everyone should have the right to create whatever he/she wants.
Do that please!! The more people let her know that she has to return the better!!
*hugs you close*

Ps: Thank you so much for your V-gift! ♥

Edited at 2010-10-10 09:31 pm (UTC)
Virtual Personal: Hug Spikevirtualpersonal on October 10th, 2010 07:49 pm (UTC)
Thank you for letting us know, I'm glad nothing has happened to her.

People are entitled to their own opinions. My goodness, there was a lot of criticism of the premier - a lot, and there is constant criticism of everything related to the show and to the fans, etc... What is the difference between a written crit and an art crit? Or icons made for people who feel a certain way to use it?

On the one hand, people act as if they are open minded, and everyone should be ready for criticism because you're in a certain line of business (actors/show people) or you post stuff up (fans) - on the other, they go ballistic about random things. Yes I mean random, because I saw scorching written reviews ten times worse than any of the icons hat were made by sweetgirl and there was no outpouring of hatred against the writer.

Anyway, tell her that in my experience, it is the negative people or those with superiority complexes who shout the loudest and make the most cutting posts/remarks in their efforts to put another person down. I think most of fandom is not like that, and Sweetgirl is much loved by a lot of people. I hope she changes her mind and comes back. Maybe she can do what a lot of folks are being driven to do these days - flock her entries and delete PMs from people she doesn't know.

Anyway, give her my hugs, whatever her decision.
Andrea: Friendslupina78 on October 10th, 2010 09:24 pm (UTC)
You´re welcome. I´m glad about that too, because as serious I take this whole thing, there are a million other for deleting a journal that are way more serious than that, and I´m glad it´s none of those.

I just don´t know what to say about it. I´m a huge SPN fan as well, but if critisism isn´t allowed at all, what the hell makes this fandom other than a dictatorship? I mean, I didn´t like the first episode either, but that doesn´t mean I hate the show, Sera or anybody else that is involved with the show. It´s statement, nothing more, nothing less.
I might as well could be offended by one certain icon which I come across every now and then. Some people might find it funny, I don´t. But I wouldn´t start such a hatred-filled war over it.

Those so called "open minded" people are only open minded as long as everyone shares the same opinion. Just don´t disagree - than you´re the Antichrist.

I gladly will tell her everything you´ve written, bc the more people stand together and show her that she has friends that care for her, that want her back, the better. I tried to talk her out of this today and I got a "I´ll think about it." Don´t know if she just said it to shut me up (would totally be her style LOL) or if she really meant it. Anyway, it´s more than I had dared to hope at the beginning of our conversation.

I will. Thank you so much! *HUGS*
Kellie: SPN - Sam Dean||hugkelzies on October 11th, 2010 12:02 am (UTC)
I'm sorry she's had to deal with all this drama over her icons. Sure, people are allowed to have their opinions over it but there's no point to attack someone.

*HUGS*
Andrea: Friendslupina78 on October 11th, 2010 09:06 am (UTC)
Thanks dear! ♥

That´s exactly what I think. There´s always gonna be someone who doesn´t like what you´re doing - in every aspect of RL as well as in here, but there´s a fine line between critism and hatery - and they overstepped that line big time! I´m torn between sadness and rage - no one should´ve the power to do that to people. It´s just not right.

*HUGS BACK* ♥
Lierinalierina on October 11th, 2010 02:47 pm (UTC)
Ich habe nicht die leiseste Ahnung, worum es geht (war viel zu lange weg), aber nach Deiner Beschreibung zu urteilen sind da einige sehr unschöne Dinge passiert...
Und das Ganze hat mit Icons angefangen? Dieses Fandom erstaunt mich immer wieder...

Ich wünsche Manu jedenfalls nur das Beste und hoffe, dass es ihr gut geht.
Kimberlytaintedangel80 on October 13th, 2010 06:54 pm (UTC)
I know that we were talking about this via PM's, but I wanted to say here... Thanks for this update Andy!
Andrea: Friendslupina78 on October 13th, 2010 07:16 pm (UTC)
You´re welcome my dear! I got several PM´s and I didn´t want to tell the same thing over and over again, so I decided to make an entry for everyone.
Hope we can get her back in here! ♥